Thursday, April 8, 2010

Why is casino marketing so stingy? Need Advice

So I am thinking about going to Vegas Monday through Wednesday after Memorial Day weekend. I have called Casino Marketing at Hotels I am interested in and their rates are worse than I have found online. With such poor occupation rates at the hotels, why would they not try to get me in there, knowing I put some good money in play. I always get comped when I go after the fact...But I never get the offers ahead of time which in this economy, pisses me off!



Why is casino marketing so stingy? Need Advice


you are doing the right thing by calling - apparently your play doesn%26#39;t warrant up-front comps. They may not know you put good money in play based on your history.



if you find a promo code you like use it and receive the comp after as you always do.



Why is casino marketing so stingy? Need Advice


I always play the same amount as my Dad, but maybe since I am younger I don%26#39;t get same offers? Who knows.




I was in Las Vegas a week ago and spoke with employees at a few hotels and also a couple of cab drivers. I noticed that crowds were up and asked about it. They all said that around the first of March business picked up quite a bit and has continued to do so since then. Were hotels sold out? I don%26#39;t think so, but occupancy rates have improved. People are still going to Vegas whether they are spending a lot of money there or not. So, things aren%26#39;t quite as bad as you might think. Discounts/promo%26#39;s are given, but you still have to earn your way to getting comped for rooms in advance of your stay.




it%26#39;s not your age - if you%26#39;re over 21



comps are based on gambling. pure and simple. 21 or 61.



try talking to a host at a property where you have previously been comped - they will review your gambling history, look at your ';theo'; and explain to you what is needed.



you are also asking for a busy week




Yes hotel occupancy is down. However, I don%26#39;t get why people assume that no one else wants to go when they do. So, that is one possible reason why they didn%26#39;t offer you what you called. Supply and demand drives rates and hotels have reduced supply by closing off parts of their hotels.





Another explanation may be that you aren%26#39;t as valuable of a player as you think, at least to the hotels you called. It maybe time to try some new places.





Age does play a role in offers but I think it has more to do with the offers they mail, not with casino rate. It is early - if the hotels don%26#39;t book up, you should be able to get a better deal closer to the trip.




I play about 60 a hand, 6 hours a day, and have always been comped at Bellagio, Mirage, and MGM. Problem is, when you call casino marketing, the lack of human contact seems to play against the caller. In person, they are very friendly and always comp room and some buffet passes.




Don%26#39;t think about it too much. Their loss, not yours. Find another place that will value you more. When you find it, write them back and tell them your story.




Thanks for the advice, any other suggestions out there? I would like to stay at as nice a place for as cheap as possible! Us wall streeters arent making as much anymore!




If you can afford to play 60 hands per hour for 6 hours you must be doing all right.





Why dont you just stay at Bellagio if they always comp you?




Have you asked them what you%26#39;re ';rated'; as officially? Your estimate may be different from theirs.IMHO you%26#39;re right on the borderline for free rooms from a host/ casino marketing at Mirage (but probably not Bellagio). They will usually base your rating on a four hour average. If you%26#39;re playing $60 a hand six hours a day...you should be the equivalent of a $90 bettor (based on four hours).MGMMirage Players Club will gave back nearly $11 an hour for every $25 bet in blackjack (if you%26#39;re playing craps they won%26#39;t count your odds bets...craps is the hardest game in the world to earn comps).

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